Success where is that? twins still dont have a true ACE.. if your are playing to be relevant.. Wes has done a good job It you are pitching to be a true contender Wes and the Dynamic duo are striking out.. I expect hell be successful at LSU and continue there or at other elite college programs for as long as he wants. Despite this, the team has been very supportive with the news having broken. FILE - Minnesota Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson, right, holds a meeting on the mound with pitcher Taylor Rogers and catcher Mitch Garver during a baseball game in Minneapolis on Aug. 11, 2019. Instead, teams are paying coaches the equivalent of slot value for a sixth round draft pick. A preseason Top 15 team nearly every year, the program has racked up six National Championships, the second most in the country. Instead, Johnson will make near the same money ($380K/yr + incentives) with his new collegiate employer, as what he was making with the Twins. Im sure the cocaine had nothing to do with ruining his career. And unlike players, teams dont get six years of control with coaches. ", The move has become more common in the last three years. Who is back? The Twins COULD have held onto his services until the expiration of his contract. Twins lose their JOHNSON !! Certainly not a lateral move. Also, consider that younger pitchers may be more receptive to coaching. Cal Ripken and Cooperstown are connected again. Keep in mind that college athletic programs are a major selling point to Alumni Departments when asking for donations. Uh, free market capitalism and a good lawyer would make that difficult. LSUs last College World Series appearance came in 2017 and it won its last national title in 2009. Falvey, when he was a member of Cleveland's baseball operations department, was one of the first in MLB to attend college coaching clinics in the early 2010s - events like Pitch-A-Palooza, and clinics at the Texas Baseball Ranch. Sheeeeeeeet Id go mostly anywhere for $750k. All picks and predictions are suggestions only. But it doesnt make it right. I tell people my priorities. So why would Wes leave? From Sarris/Buchanan: No source contacted for this article knew of any pitching coaches who made [$750,000] in the big leagues. The term sheet has a$380,000yearly base salaryand runs through June 30, 2025. Well everyone wants Dylan Crews but hes not a pitcher. This is the SEC he is going back to and a program that is always good but hasnt had a CWS appearance since 2017 and no titles since 2009. He made $400,000 w/ #MNTwins this season.When asked about package, Johnson: I cant comment on that., "My family is above the game of baseball The Twins are a great organization this place is awesome. If LSU does not win and dominate pitching he will be on the hot seat. So not only will Johnson be at a level thats more comfortable for him and where he has more experience, hell also be closer to family with a likely pay raise headed his way: Wes Johnson said spending more time with his family was the primary factor in his decision to take the job with LSU. The university of Wisconsin got rid of baseball in the early 90s because it was too expensive. Well, for LSU, its a big recruiting factor to have a former Major League Baseball pitching coach abandon his team to join your program. "I think there will be a learning process there, but there hasn't been any issues yet. Right now is when most schools are doing their hiring. DanHayesMLB (@DanHayesMLB) June 26, 2022. That means that Johnson might just enjoy the lifestyle of a collegiate coach. Sad to say but his coke addiction probably prolonged his career. "I'm throwing two pitches now that I never threw before with the splitter and a new slider," Pagan said. The term sheet he was granted shows a much smaller salary for Wes Johnson, than the $750K first reported. His influence and impact will continue to be realized in Minnesota through the pitchers and staff members he helped mentor. Let your Yes be Yes, and your no be no! Johnson was leaving a good team to take the same position at a lower level, albeit at a school in the powerhouse SEC. News of his move broke shortly before takeoff to Cleveland, where the first-place Twins open a crucial four-day, five-game series against the second-place Guardians on Monday. Plus his pitching staffs, while rarely given top talent, have performed well, currently ranking 11th in ERA among 30 MLB teams. "What does this person need up here to prepare them to go out there and do their job? The collegiate season begins in February and runs until mid-June. They also have the seventh-most College World Series appearances. 2023 Baseball HOF preview: Can controversial candidates gain ground? He became known as the "czar of velocity" when he helped make the little-known Dallas Baptist program relevant on the college baseball scene. Im sorry but this is totally fed up. Correa describes twisting road that led back to Twins, Reusse: Correa's return is good, even if some of you won't like it. One wonders how much coin hes getting from LSU to consider this move. Johnson made history when he joined the Twins staff after the 2018 season straight from the University of Arkansas. Megan Ryan is a Minnesota Twins beat reporter. Its because they dont know how to pitch these days. It's my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, one. Bullpen coach Pete Maki is expected to take over the lead pitching coach role from Johnson, but Twins officials have stressed that truly replacing Johnson will be a group effort involving multiple internal staff members. This just shows how much he must hate the Twins or Minnesota. Unfortunately, the team has to deal with bigger news, a coaching shakeup that hasnt been seen in decades: the departure of Pitching Coach Wes Johnson to become the new pitching coach at Louisiana State University. If you dont know the difference theres no point in arguing with anyone here about it. He wanted to go all-in with his new role. Both were in disbelief, so Correa walked back to staff's section, specifically to pitching coach Wes Johnson. Who will step up? News spread that Johnson was leaving the team to take the pitching coach job at LSU. Tell that to Steve Carlton or Tom Seaver, after looking at their complete game totals. This is when a LOT of hires take place. LSU baseball pitching coach Wes Johnson, who was hired on Monday, has signed a three-year term sheet worth $1.14 million. No worse than a team firing a coach in midseason. * 21+ (19+ CA-ONT) (18+ NH/WY). The problem is not how pitchers are handled its that they dont know how to actually pitch. He connected his phone to the Wi-Fi and opened up Twitter, naturally. Although they made a trade to acquire Jake Odorizzi, nobody reached their full potential until Johnson came aboard in 2019. And why would he do all of this in the middle of the season? University documents obtained by The Advertiser show that LSU's last pitching coach, Jason Kelly, signed a three-year, $900,000 term sheet. Likely candidates are assistant pitching coach Luis Ramirez, bullpen coach Pete Maki and run prevention coordinator Colby Suggs, though the team has emphasized it will be a group effort to finish this season. Seems weird, because its mid-season MLB, and the odd nature of the hire. 2023 www.theadvertiser.com. In addition, LSU is a lot closer to home for Johnson and his family. You may be right. Starting pitching was seen as a big question mark for the Twins heading into 2022, but the club has weathered another set of injuries to post strong-to-respectable numbers in several categories. One pitching coach or hitting coach, teams appear to believe, is largely no different than any other pitching or hitting coach in the overall available pool of coaches. Actually no. I would suspect there are some kind of family issues at the root of this move. He said he preferred to go now and not wait. By Mark Polishuk | June 27, 2022 at 9:25am CDT. Johnson traveled with the team on Sunday night to Cleveland, where he will stay on for the five-game series that's scheduled through Thursday, Twins spokesman Dustin Morse said. This Samuel guy knows just enough about baseball that his friends think he knows a lot but everyone else knows differently. Good luck Wes! The fact that major league coaches Report: Marlins eyeing Arraez as Twins renew efforts to shop Eppler: Mets' lineup deep despite losing Correa, Report: Marlins among few teams considering Chapman. New LSU pitching coach Wes Johnson is set to receive $1.14 million over a three-year contract starting on July 4, according to the term sheet released to The Not a lateral move if he is making more money. He was impressed with Johnson's presentations. Many on board the flight were still unaware of the news when the team landed in Cleveland at 8:30 p.m. Minnesotas decision to hire Johnson was initially met with skepticism. The Twins Are Still Two Steps Away From Contending, Carlos Correa Is Saying All The Right Things. Johnson will join Jay Johnsons staff at LSU, replacing pitching coach Jason Kelly, who was hired as head coach at the University of Washington last week. But this is hire time for NCAA programs. The pitching has been a reason behind the Twins 41-33 record, and rise to first place in the AL Central. Odd that he would leave during the season and not negotiate leaving after the season. If he wanted to go and was denied that opportunity both his attitude and desire would take on a decidedly negative attitude which would affect both his ability to relate to pitchers, position players, fellow coaches, the team manager and the front office. With this in mind, it makes it all the more unusual that Johnson would leave so abruptly The Athletics Dan Hayes reports that the Twins only learned yesterday about Johnsons negotiations with LSU. Id take a demotion if it meant I was making over double the money. EXAMINING LSU BASEBALL'S ROSTER:Examining LSU baseball's 2023 roster: Who is gone? Now the staff will have to look to assistant pitching coach Pete Maki, whos set to take over for Johnson. Johnson was sitting at his customary seat at the coaches card table for what should have been a happy flight after the Twins closed out a series victory Sunday. "We have hired, in my opinion, the best pitching coach in the country at any level," LSU coach Jay Johnson said in a school release Monday. Its also interesting hes going to be paid so much more at the college level than he was in the major leagues I have no dog in the hunt and I wish him all the best at LSU except when hes playing the Tennessee Vols. Do you think hitters should just concede their at bat so pitchers do not have to throw so many pitches? Sometimes those answers are very easy, sometimes they are more complex.". LSU baseball hires Minnesota Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson for same role with Tigers. Are we throwing the pitches that we want to throw, the way we want to throw them? All suing accomplishes is making it more difficult to hire coaches in the future. The news was unexpected and, really, pretty strange. Certainly 350K is a good amount of money for the average person, but seems light for a lead MLB coaching position, especially considering all the advances in pitching analytics and expectations from pitching coaches today. Its probably a moot point though. Wes Johnsons base LSU salary is $380,000 as reported by @BrodyAMiller.Multiple industry sources said total compensatory package potentially in neighborhood of $750,000. Further announcements will come later this week, the Twins said in a statement released Sunday night. May 8 2018 Exercised $6.13 million option with Los Angeles (LAC) for 2018-19. But the Twins pitching coach position makes $350,000 a year. Johnson's family lives in Arkansas and he feels he's spending too much time away from his wife and 12-year-old daughter. As one of the leaders of the Trackman technology, the Twins believed that Johnson would give them an advantage. DETAILS BELOW. And that makes Johnsons move rather remarkable. Lol calling your own comment a clown comment. Inside pitching coach Wes Johnson's departure and the Twins' trying week, Get the latest trending sports news daily in your inbox. The ultimate, personalized mobile sports experience, Report: Mets, Pham agree to 1-year, $6M deal, Report: Red Sox, Duvall agree to 1-year, $7M deal. Good for him, man. Dan Hayes of The Athletic reported that the Twins front office had a motto: In Wes We Trust. His ability to evaluate talent has been a big factor this season. I wonder what he is making as a pitching coach for the Tigers and how much he turned down to go to UM. The Twins, meanwhile, will begin the second half of their season without their talented pitching whisperer, trying to maintain their playoff positioning. If he is successful down there, next he can run for the US Senate. Send this article to anyone, no subscription is necessary to view it. If Maki succeeds, it would make a lot of sense to have him continue on in the role past 2022. Bingo. since he left the University of Arkansas in 2019. The 2021 season was a steep drop-off, with a 4.83 staff ERA. 30 years ago.. Pitchers were pitching complete games.. Now, its expected that Pete Maki is going to take over as the teams pitching coach when Wes Johnson leaves after Thursday. He will now be paid $750,000 per year by LSU, sources confirmed. And yes, I get it. Smeltzer said Johnson was good at communicating complex data from the front office in easy-to-digest ways. Why do you think Fernando Valenzuela flamed out? "It was a lot more emotional than I thought it would be," Smeltzer said. WebWesley Johnson contract and salary cap details, contract breakdowns, dead money, and news. LSU and that money would be hard to turn down. Maybe youre biased but youre not wrong. most-competitive league in the world, yet Johnson was only making $350K several years into his gig. If you know how to pitch, you dont need to throw everything at 100mph, and you dont blow out your arm. CLEVELAND Carlos Correa was settled in for the Twins' hourlong flight to Cleveland, gearing up for five games in four days with the AL Central lead in flux. That happens all the time. That fall ball really helped them last season. When Falvey hired Johnson in the spring of 2019 to be Minnesota's pitching coach, Johnson became the first coach to make a direct college-to-the-majors jump since 1979, according to Baseball America. It does create some juggling," Falvey said. 6:30PM: In a surprise midseason move, Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson is leaving the team to return to the college ranks, as D1 Baseballs Kendall Rogers (Twitter link) reports that Johnson has been hired as LSUs new pitching coach. Johnson has been the Twins pitching coach since he left the University of Arkansas in 2019. It has also put the Twins in a tough spot, having to replace a key staff member by Friday once Johnson officially leaves after this series. Hes just really happy for me. AZ, CO, CT, IL, IN, IA, KS, LA, (select parishes), MD, MI, NH, NJ, NY, OH, OR, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY, CA-ONT only.Eligibility restrictions apply. In addition to the 100% raise, I have to think that recruiting and retaining prime 18 to 22 year old talent is a factor. 2023 Baseball HOF preview: Downballot candidates try to hold Report: Royals want Greinke to accept inexpensive, incentive Report: Red Sox bring in Alfaro on minor-league deal. They are compensated well, at least at the major league level minor league coaches make a fraction of what major league coaches do but their salaries are a drop in the bucket compared to what the players make. Johnson will also have full control of pitching development. Hes worked with Johnson for the last two years since he was promoted to the Major League staff, and its likely that Maki will be given the interim tag going forward. Been playing for a long time. Maki, in fact, was hired by the Twins from Duke University, where he was pitching coach. Or Greg Maddux for that matter. "I tell people my priorities. Lateral or step down doesnt really matter when youre making 500K more a year. Chris Fetter the Detroit Tigers pitching coach turned down the head coaching pitching for the University of Michigan. BREAKING: @LSUbaseball is hiring @Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson as its new pitching coach, sources tell @d1baseball. Maki, the teams bullpen coach, has been with the organization since 2017 when he was hired as the teams minor league pitching coach. As the Twins flew to Cleveland on Sunday evening, players were shocked to learn many of them via social media that Wes Johnson was leaving their first-place team for a college job. The LSU pitching coach makes $750,000 a year. To reverse course and head back to the college ranks for an assistant role is similarly unprecedented, especially given the timing and lack of warning. Just look to Cora/Hinch/Beltran for examples. The story is worth checking out, for a number of reasons, but what struck me in reading about it is what it reveals about the compensation for coaches, and what it says about how they are valued. Sources told @DanHayesMLB he was making about $400K with the Twins. While a Twins source said pay and resources were not an issue in Johnson leaving, a coach leaving the majors for a college gig does put into question how MLB Parker Tillson Parker Tillson is in his second year as a sports reporter for The Arkansas Traveler. Thats a significant improvement compared to the four seasons prior to Johnsons arrival, when the Twins ranked No. Theyve ranked 12th on average over his four seasons with the ballclub, which is admirable considering their personnel. 6 so far this season. The team announced bullpen coach Pete Maki will take over Johnson's duties. Its clear that Wes Johnson was motivated to leave the Minnesota Twins. He did not ask the team for more money, but its believed that his new salary is double what he was believed to be making with the Twins ($350K). Johnson flew back with the team to Minnesota. Its actually hire time for NCAA. Seems weird he'd leave a first-place MLB team in the middle of the season. Shortstop was No. LSU baseball pitching coach Wes Johnson, who was hired Monday evening, has signed his three-year contract worth $1.14 million. The term sheet has a $380,000 annual base salary through June 2025. Leaving the Minnesota Twins, who reportedly had Johnson on a salary near $400,000, he now has the chance to eclipse that figure with postseason incentives. LSU released Johnson's contract information to The Advertiser on Monday after a public records request. The Twins pulled together impromptu meetings at the hotel, where Baldelli, Johnson and President of Baseball Operations Derek Falvey confirmed the reports. Johnson is from Arkansas and lives on the gulf coast in the offseason. Probably a better package at LSU. In fact, that booster is probably encouraging him to do so. From 2020-21, LSU athletics spent more than they made. Johnson was initially hired out of the college ranks in 2018, after developing a reputation as one of the better instructors at the college level. He was the first pitching coach to move from college to the MLB and is the first coach OR manager to do so since 1980. If you buy something from an SB Nation link, Vox Media may earn a commission. I couldnt leave fast enough. Ability of MLB pitching staff to perform is in doubt. Thats going to happen. TIGERS HIRE WES JOHNSON:LSU baseball hires Minnesota Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson for same role with Tigers. "By the time I walked back to my seat, the guys are like, 'What were you talking to Rocco about?' In any context, an MLB pitching coach leaving for a college job is surprising, but what makes this truly shocking is that Johnson is leaving a first-place Twins team, in the middle of the season, and getting a massive raise to do so. "Wes Johnson and others speak about his move to LSU pic.twitter.com/SDuwpnDAB2. It's my family, two. Im going to say that Im 100% biased about this decision because I went to LSU, and have lived purple and gold for the past 50 years. Since College Teams mostly play in their own regions there is less travel, A more stable home life, and players who might actually listen to him. Now, in the middle of the season, that coach is leaving a division-leading team thats seen as a pitcher or two away from being a contender to head to the college level. Btw, does putting something up your nose hurt your arm? Even if they do try, what exactly could they do to LSU for not adhering to the ban? It could also play a bigger role as the Twins approach the trade deadline. He's a fireball. The LSU athletic department does not use public funding. Many of the big college programs even pay their head coaches more than MLB gives to some of their managers. Mlb pitching coaches dont make much. In fact, for about a 20 year period, the athletic department was able to donate about $7-12m to the general fund of the university to aid in scholarships, aid, upgrades, etc. "He's the best pitching coach I've ever had. Leading the division without an ace is actually a sign that he was doing a good job. Must miss the college game. Hes done that many times over for us.. The Lafayette Daily Advertiser reported Johnson's LSU contract has a $380,000 yearly base salary for three years, plus a $800 per month vehicle allowance However, it may have created an issue within the clubhouse. Still the hire raised eyebrows at the time since Johnson had never worked in an MLB organization before the Twins took a chance on him, but evidently, he prefers to head back to school. There was an SI article on young starting pitchers pitching so many innings? The term sheet has a $380,000 In that regard, Johnson was something of a forerunner to this trend, as he was an early adopter of Trackman technology even at the college level. In this case, at least, the SEC trumps the AL Central, which has the potential to send shockwaves through MLB if other big-time college programs attempt to lure major-league coaches in a similar manner, more than doubling what is a fairly typical salary in the big leagues. Wes Johnson is on the charter to Cleveland. More pressure. Minnesota Twins: 4 Twins who should be ditched by the All-Star Break. pic.twitter.com/120i0hm97C, So now that we have more detail, this makes the midseason move even more fascinating for Wes Johnson leaving an MLB team for #LSU. What kind of power do you think MLB actually has? I think Wes is one of my biggest advocates, Archer said. Arizona offered Yeskie a contract over $650,000 annually, including better job security than MLB franchises are willing to provide. LSU is a perennial top 15 college baseball program, in the top baseball conference in the country. This is how theyre monitored? This is an all-around stunning move. The college coach makes $400,000 more then the same position in MLB? The article said there is a hardening of cartilage in pitchers arms until the age of 25. He also writes for Bring Me The News and The Viking Age and hosts The Homer Horn Podcast. Coaching changes happen all the time during the season in baseball. The decision puts the Twins in a midstream juggling act. But were only about a month off of players moving back for fall ball, and Sept 1 rolling around. Kind of going over things and making sure that every step of preparation is in line.". It also explains how colleges provide additional revenue streams aside from the base salary (which Sarris and Buchanan say is $388,000 for LSU) to make the overall package richer than what is publicly reported by the schools. LSU had courted Johnson last season as well. But Hayes also reported that Johnson never asked for a raise after the Twins tried to convince him to stay. Good for him on getting to place and salary thats good for his family. Someoldguy your precisely why mlb owners should all spend less on talent. The Minnesota Twins must make a midseason change to a vital role on their field staff, with the sudden departure of pitching coach Wes Johnson for a lucrative college job at LSU. Johnson left his position as the Minnesota Twins pitching coach to come to Baton Rouge. You have the most accurate handle Ive ever come across. If Im getting my numbers right (and feel free to double check), Johnson will be making 500,000 more dollars a year. Theres also a quality-of-life issue, as coaches with big time college programs do much less travel, particularly during the season, than MLB coaches do, and thus get to spend many more nights at home with their families. Thats pretty normal. I expect that hes burned any bridge back to MLB by leaving a division-leading team mid-season. Twins must want some prospect(s) from that college. Minnesota Twins pitching coach Wes Johnson is leaving the team for the same role at LSU. Im now curious what pitching coaches around the game make. Maki joined the Twins in 2017 after serving as the pitching coach at Duke University. I would have guessed any lead pitching coach was already making $750K! And manager Rocco Baldelli made no secret about the outsized role Johnson played relative to some other MLB pitching coaches, often deferring to Johnson on day-to-day pitching questions, not unlike an offensive-minded football coach handing the keys to the defense over to a defensive coordinator. Twins, their players, Correa. It may be a game but its still business. Johnson said this was "the toughest thing" he's ever done. A five-game series with the second-place Cleveland Guardians awaited, and the Twins were ready to re-establish themselves as the best team in the division. Johnson reportedly received an annual salary around $350,000 from the Twins when he left the University of Arkansas for MLB in November 2018. Why would he leave a first-place team? Not everyone was happy about the news, Twins sources said. Guys are taught how to throw harder, not how to pitch. He called him an effective "translator. Related: MLB trade rumors: Latest MLB rumors in June. We wish him and his family all the best during his next stop at LSU.. Leaving the Minnesota Twins, who reportedly had Johnson on a salary near $400,000, he now has the chance to eclipse that figure with postseason incentives. What makes this interesting is Johnson leaving a Twins team, who is first in the AL Central, for relatively the same money. I do let Wes take control and set up a plan for each one of our guys. LSU, meanwhile, was very aggressive in recruiting Johnson. College and MLB seasons don't really track together as college play just Even more peculiar is that the Twins tried to keep Johnson, asking him what they could do to prevent him from leaving, but Johnson didnt bite, opting to leave anyway. Several pitchers were happy for Johnson's new opportunity, but sad to lose his guidance. Sources told @DanHayesMLB he was making about $400K with the Twins. No one can be sure how things will go now that Johnson is heading down South. ACC Freshman of the Year Tommy White, who hit 27 home runs, transfers to LSU baseball, Your California Privacy Rights / Privacy Policy. Pay attention. The fact that the Tigers have not been to the CWS in 5 years is likely behind a huge spending spree on their coaching staff the last 2 years. Wes Johnsons base LSU salary is $380,000 as reported by @BrodyAMiller. Interesting that he leaves in the middle of the Year considering the college season wont start until well after the Major League baseball season is over. And I'm like, 'I don't know. Those were the terms used by members of the Twins traveling party Sunday evening to describe the 90-minute flight to Cleveland, when word leaked out that highly regarded pitching coach Wes Johnson accepted a significant raise to become the new pitching coach at Louisiana State University, multiple sources confirmed to The Athletic. LSU was very aggressive in the negotiating process and Johnson moved forward even after the Twins asked what they could do to potentially make staying more appealing. 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