I know they are rated as the 5th most intelligent breed, but IMHO our Dobbie was simply the most intelligent dog we owned. I am looking for a blue and tan puppy to join her but the only litter I have found seems to be for a lady that has v negative feedback from. all reputable sources of info on the white, INCLUDING THE AKC, say the same thing highly prone to genetic defects. Treat them right and the will do the same. Do your research. We love our Porsche, but not all is well that looks well. You people that are for that are disgusting and as for the health problems duh people watch your breeders inbred dogs do have health problems no matter what the color and as for the dpca they only have bad things to say about the whites because they are disgusting and kill the whites to i have done extensive research as far as even going thru old records registrations and clippings they descended from greyhounds as well as multiple other breeds do your research before you say people are disgusting for breeding whites you are disgusting for helping in the bad rap they get and in getting killed at birth for it none of you are true dog lovers. Can you tell me how your girl is doing and maybe send some pics? The goal in breeding is to better each individual breed. i have an albino dob and a black on they both get the same food and go to the dog park 4 times a week and my white one is more helthy then my black and tan, Hi, again does anyone know of a breeder with blue and tan pups in the UK? No, youre probably thinking the red Doberman. Tails should be docked in the first 3days after the dog is born. : ). My daughter breeds dobermans for the better of the breed, she can tell you all you need to know and more of what you want to know. Home / Uncategorized / what is a doberman haversham. Whites live longer and have less health issues because breeders have to breed them for health and think about what they are doing. Mom kept telling her she didnt like her. Breeding white dobermans is like defecating in your own gene pool. Now everyone take a moment and lets think about how long dobs have been around ? Health issues are rampant in dobes. the dogs arent genetical cripples because of the color. My interest is in the fawn doberman the blue and silver fawn seem to have caught my attention for this type of dog. To the guy that said the bull mastiff came about by interbreeding other bull mastiffs you are an idiot. I got her when I was two years of age and she just recently died. Use it or loose it. Probably not the answer you wanted, but I know DVMs who will not breed once a year if they cannot come as close as possible to not reproducing these health issues to further weaken the breed. You can use it externally on wounds or internally as well. The most common Doberman hair color is obviously the black and tan, sometimes called black and rust, or black and brown. You sound like you have a deep love for the breed. Knock on wood no problems for him. It disgusts me deeply. So there you have it! Ive had dobies of every color except fawn. It So there you have it. I am looking at an Isabella (Fawn). Also. i will also say that certain people shouldnt be allowed to breed either (like know it alls that are never happy with their own lives) but they do. I have owned a white puppy because my red female and black and tan male made 4 white puppies. Are you kidding? Ive had Dobies for over 40 years! White dobermans can be sickly or healthy as can ANY other dog. I am a breeder and my female come from a line of whites. Never a problem with this. Before you judge white dobermans I would recommend talking to people that have them. Well we got a Red Male from her and hes been amazing for the last 10 1/2 years. Secondly White dobermans are more healthy than the fawn and blues. BTW, two large studies on cardio (one in the US and one in Europe) have shown that 60 per cent of dobes suffer from the disorder. Go to the pound and get the dog of your choice. Never hurts to have all the facts. Is currently located in NY. Take it from someone who found out the hard way. You people are freaking impaired if you think breeding a white/partial albino Doberman isnt a terrible act. My Doberman is just a carrier but suffered not only a corneal ulceration but also a host of other skin diseases! This works really well for their skin. Nothing wrong with her at all. We have recently lost our Dobie. People that breed white dobermans are disgusting & the people who are buying them are too! You, however, do sound very stupid and childish by 1. I would say its do-able with certain preparation. albinos have pink eyes. So if you breed your dog again, you have 25% chance of every pup to be white, and 75% chance to black. Why would someone breed for this on purpose???? Does that NOT send a red flag right there? The gray color may have a charcoal gray, silver, or purple tone. Well I am the Proud owner and friend of one black and rust, one blue and rust, one red and rust, and two isabella (fawn) and rust Dobermans. The environment is everything. Beautifully said. Keep him for a week let him run and do all the things that make him happy, then bring him back. I know white dobermann breeders in France they are on FB, Dobermann blanc de France et Les Diamants de la nuit, All of which are not albinoid. Thank you for your support I hope you can answer. You can easily make this yourself or call a few vets for other suggestions. they are not albino their eyes are blue. She has not health or behavior issues. If you truly cared as much as you would like others to believe, you would take the time to understand instead of spouting off at the mouth when its painfully obvious you havent a clue what youre talking about. Hi George, Most of the diseases and illnesses recorded in white dobes are nearly constant in other breeds of dogs, regardless of coloration. You are not helping, you are hurting, period. We are to blame for not doing research prior to getting her. Right, exactly what we did not want, a puppy. The genetic mutation that occurs to create the white coat is not the same of that that occurs in albino dogs. VMD and AKC registered Doberman breeder here. Ive done my best to help but havent had much luck. Ive owned nothing but dobermans for 30 years and I have owned and rescused every color, including the z factor whites. Any other suggestions , Me too I want a Melanistic too. Do they have anymore? See more ideas about rian dawson, all about time, all time low. I would never dream of having any other breed they are fantastic. This article forgot to mention that not long ago, the fawn and blue Doberman pups were culled (Killed) at birth. Lol Ive come into contact with a white before and I fell in love but I dont really know where to look. Their mothers are forced to have what they dont want then toss then aside because none of the do gooders want them so they get fostered. Look, Ive owned rescue dogs and purebreds. It is safer to put animals down in a shelter than to risk it 1. Im now looking for another Doberman. And they do not carry a trait on the white gene that make them unhealthy. NOT INBREEDING. Our last shepherd Sebastian was so depressed he wouldnt eat and hid in the corner. The temperament for these dogs are great. Years, Milo is 4 and not a day goes by that I dont think of Cleo! Which at this point is all it is. I have had dobes for over 20 years blks, blue, and now white, i must be lucky because my wht dobe is a big lovable dog with no health problems. Theres this awesome thing called Google, use it, and dont just click on the first thing you see and read it. I also agree with not getting dogs from shelters, I want to know where my dogs have come from and that they have had my influence and training from a young age. My black & rust male Doberman is wonderful. He had behavioral problems and absolutely hated men for some reason. it seems like we should not make arguments to support our own particular interest . My white may squint in the sun but so do I! This matter was also of large debate with the German shepherd, which was later accepted. There is currently a female Doberman about 4-5 years old looking for a home near Erie PA Do you know the health issues and aggression that can come without spaying or neutering? How you can psychologically mix dog breeding with human color and racism is not just astounding and blithering in its ignorance, it is also alarming. Once from the killer STAPH I got in the hospital during an appendix event. Wouldnt it be nice if we could guarantee that the breeders of the white Dobermans had as much integrity as you think your daughter has ? @DJ Yes. (Unless of course you live on Mars, and I do take that as a serious possibility.) More educated people know about this so spread the word. I had two doberman a blue and a fawn they both loved to play with tennis balls. She has never had an issue in health her whole life. I recommend both of them and if your are close to either I can give you a contact person. He is of great character and personality. good people raise good dogs. Either due to crafty paper work practices or AKC slip ups . Wrong!! I have Never seen an Albino, they arent deaf, or skittish, or brain damaged, as described by bias people who refuse to look at real proof. My Shepherd has no problems with my Mini Pin. which makes them VERY smart. What about the thyroid condition that Dobes get? Additional advice to the owners. And all anyone can do is take the best care of their animal as possible. one black and one white, just like the parents (50% chance this has twice the chance that the both-black or the both-white) they are carriers, their white gene allel is hidden, 3.) (I canNOT be out of her sight!) could anyone tell me their experience if possible with Z factor of puppies? Their temperments were all wonderful and they were glorious blessings. Some people are totally a-holeish about it. Now some breeders have been trying to fix the problem by crossing the white with fawn to keep the light color but extend the gen pool, this is helping the problem a lot. was a shock and has been a difficult loss. What is so different with these? Also they are small puney and frail in body type and just couldnt prefrom protection duties very well because ther bodies arnt built for the extreme exersizes and longevity of the protection sports or work that military or police use, there ligiments and muscle tissue and joints wouldnt hold up.. FOR HEALTH Mystic Pink. Stop. There are just to many reports of health risks, and all just so you can have one in a white color. Its obviously you dont know a damn thing about the breed do your research get a DNA test stop believing all the crap you see on the internet about white Dobermans none of it is true. This breed of dogs originated in Germany where it was distributed all over the world. If it has two, it bcomes white. This poor puppy has already been through so much and I truly believe that is was brought on by improper breeding. Please help if you can. Exercise responsibility instead. Please do not spay or neuter your pets. She has 2 small dogs as pack-mates, so she doesnt quite realize her own strength or size. This color shouldnt be breed. Rumors have encircled the White Dobies for years. Whites have been insecure about this fact and rewrote history to try and make white skin more attractive when it is in fact inferior and a genetic mutation. Also we treat infections with MESOSILVER. Amen, Michelle. if my husband has alergies and so do i should we not have children? Absolutely I couldnt agree with you more on this Breed for the right reasons not just for the rare colors Dobermans are an exceptional breed when breed right and responsible some breeders breed for the wrong reasons just to get that rare coloring and that couldnt be more wrong and they end up with health conditions research before breeding or as a consumer before you buy . He would turn himself inside out for one of Grandmas oatmeal cookies. All Dobermans are sensitive to the cold, as well. Sometimes red Dobermans are called chocolate Dobermans. Some people love dobermans and only want a doberman. black gives flavor and life, while white dilutes and uses water as base. They wanted nothing to do with that! Spayed females had nine times higher incidence of hemangiosarcoma compared to intact females, regardless of when spaying was performed, however, no difference in incidence of this type of cancer was found for neutered vs. intact males. Thanks for any info. I recently purchased a blue Doberman from a breeder. My heart goes out to you and all who have had to deal with the lost of a good dog. The white Doberman looks interesting but breeders should avoid introducing these dogs into their bloodlines. Great looking dog, although someone did a hack job on his ears. I think not.. after reading as much of your snarkiness that I could stomach. This is natural. White Dobermans are predisposed to many health issues. We are in Huntsville, AL. We nursed her for 2 months and then gave in to euthanize her. Where is the Tennessee rescue.. Im not on Facebook but would like to get in touch with them. All of our dogs are socialized and do not have temperment problems. Hello Michael, I too am not a breeder/trainer but I am now on dobe number 3 and have worked with them as security dogs. If you need more information about 23+ Doberman Haversham Dog, you can check the following LINK . Hello. 3) If you have extra money enough, do NOT get the DNA tested, but rather give it to a homeless person on the street with a dog. research. Have some bad news for people that are upset about white dobies being the result of inbreeding. And she has bright pink skin that burns easily. Chantelle would push her nose under her hand and flip it to land on her head. No its norepriducing Its a pet. It doesnt get much better than that!!! Its done that to me too. A Doberman that is white is not special in a good way. this makes sence, but i also have to work for a living. A lot of people dont realize, a certain amount of in-breeding is done all the time, with every breed of dog (or cat, horse, cow, etc) when producing and bettering a specified BREED. Not everyone wants one, and people are impressionable. New Life kennels in Idaho has the best Dobies youll ever find! So glad you came along. Dobermans have a specific temperament that was bred to protect their owners they are also very well tempered around children and people. All domesticated animals including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of natural selection and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. 88+ Purebred Doberman Haversham Puppy - l2sanpiero 88+ Purebred Doberman Haversham Puppy Hi animal lovers, I see you are looking for 88+ Purebred Doberman Haversham Puppy. We figured out how to get him to do what I wanted but it took some work. My white is now 6 months old and I couldnt be happier with her in all regards. Lol. Doberman Dog Breed Information. Look in before you look oot an age-old Scottish expression. Somewher down the line, someone decided to select for certain traits, and breed for said traits. These are family Dobermans. Your going off on the author of this site does nothing to change that. She even feeds her dogs food she makes herself, it looks yummy! I grew up with black and reds, and I would like to get another Black and a white. You clearly mistook the information in the article that they are sick animals and shouldnt be bred. Where to begin Ok my family purchased a blue Doberman pinscher in 2009 at roughly 2 months of age with tail docked I was given AKC paperwork regarding history of his lineage and AKC number. Porsche had an echocardiogram and her heart murmur was determined to be less than minor. It is just that Padula was the first one anyone tried to register. let me no what you do for your dobes while your away. I think its hilarious that everyone continues to blame the Cream/white Doberman on inbreeding . That is why the AKC registers them (albeit with the distinguishable Z designation much in part to the decrying of folks whonm think they are much smarter than they are in the area of all things wise and wonderful). Nick I think all dogs are pack animals that dont like being left alone, this includes dobes. Haha, just like its wrong to have RRB without the ridge, even though those ones tend to be healthier, so pure whites or blacks shouldnt be bred, but either just sold off or put down like the do with the RRBs without the ridge? I am now 16) I can say that for some people, purebred dogs are better. My vet at the time gave me something to bath Blue in. Im sorry your new puppy has a heart murmur!! He is crate trained for while she is at work and he loves to go for rides and hikes. So sad I was really looking forward to puppies , You are unselfish. So Isabella color and the variations- it is totally normal considering this ))))). Your right about euthanasia. They are absolutely beautiful! Were u able to do anything for him. So get that idea out your head and just research the dog you get before you get it or ask ur local vet. As for good foods there are so many nowadays. I am searching high and low for an ADULT Doberman. i have a white doverman and he is very loving hes six years old no health problem until last week he started falling like his front claws wants to turn in while he walks has anyone every had this proble please let meknow? .. if there is something wrong with it, its not because of its color. Hes my 90lb lap dog. Its easier to do research than you think. It does that to almost everybody. Back to the people want the unusual, but dont realize how much work comes with it. We have a red Doberman at PAWS in Tinley Park, Illinois. everyone is taking offense to that why? My grandmother had white and cream dobermans and she bread them. we all know that dobes are very intelligent. I use to breed Dobermans. Lay blame where blame belongs, the people who dont spay, neglect, and/or abuse animals. Yes humans manipulate genetics for their entertainment at times, and at times they are guided through intelligence and a divergence from the norm that forms that which has given us the diversity in all living things, the mind expanding wild and exhilarating roller coaster ride of explosive evolution. Animal shelters are not a reliable source. Now what? Hes now 10 years old, and has fatty cysts all over him. Bottom line is that it is a mutation and more importantly it causes health issues for these poor animals! Also though they do not use Wiemaraners for PPD dogs typically. So, yes, hes required a bunch of extra care. Second major problem and most expensive: woke up one morning and found MoZart wimpering and saw his eyes had changed colors: one was blue, the other a strange greenish color took him to the emergency vet hospital and found he was suffering from a corneal ulceration :-(. By far, my white girl is the healthiest of all of them, and has the thickest, most beautiful coat of all of them too. Thank you , so sad anyone would want to encourage breeding white Dobermans, knowing the health problems they will have to endure. She is a hand full and always wants too be by your side! The male dog is very intelligent, very loving and affectionate, and riddled with unfixable health problems. I agree with you and on a recent visit to the vet with our new rescue he was pleased to see that he was 2 yrs old before neutering (we have no choice when getting a rescue) because he said recent studies showed a 15% reduction in cancers if neutered at 2 years AS COMPARED TO NEUTERING AS A PUPPY). Thankful of it! Love your Doberman that was born white but make sure to protect it from the sun, its eyes, skin, etc. because the black ones are the best for you and far superior to the plain white ones. Having said all this, if you do find a white Doberman rescue dog or a white Doberman from a breeder with a good reputation, who does health testing, please give them a chance. Now that Ive read your comments I wont breed them though. just because you think they look cute does not mean that the dog is comfortable when his health problems persist and flair up . But the Doberman is also born in a few other colors. They are beautiful dogs and behave just as well as any other dobe. I believe this is a huge factor. Whatever color your Doberman is, remember they have short hair and are sensitive to cold temperatures. Hi I take four tabs and use a mortor and pestle to grind to powder. They also may be more aggressive and therefore, give the breed a bad reputation. She excepted my wife at 2 years old, my children when they came along when she was six with my daughters and eight for my son. ?Too much puppy for us (as we well knew when we decided on her), but we are all learning to adapt. So beautifully rare. I happened to find her on Craigslist and have been in contact with the owner who is going thru some hard time divorce etc and is moving and not able to take Trinity with her.. Several different types available. I dont think all the voodoo science about the whites are real. I am 16 years of age and I am more adult than well over half the people leaving comments here. They are excellent for people with allergies in my humble opinion, very short hair, single coat (no undercoat) Very clean and almost cat like. Shes 11 now, and still going strong. How is Duke? Bashing someones religion. are there any kinds of toys or things i can leave in that would give him the stimulation that i have heard they need while im at work? I wanted one that was very easy going, a little less territorial and on edge most of the time, because we had a lot of kids in and out of our home. Spaying/neuterining is the equivalent of cutting out a womans ovaries or a mans testicles without their permission.would you like for your doctor to do this to you simply because he didnt think you should have children? They are evey bit the cherished Doberman Pinscher we all know and love. The Doberman dog is also seen in a fawn color and a blue color which is seen much less often. Like every Dobe, hes happiest when with his family (me, my wife, our son, daughter and granddaughter). . Evilboo..you are one mature young ladyrespect. When we walk in our little town, shes a rock star. And if you sincerely care about shelter dogs, I also recommend you stop whining on the internet and start pushing your congressman for tougher laws punishing animal abusers and tighter regulation of pet ownership and breeding. I do believe that they do have a soft stomach . last but not least Dobermans have one flaw THEY DONT LIVE FOREVER. I feel the combination is a great for the medical condition in which I am going to be using my dog for when I get it. His temperament is exceptional. I mean, AKC and purebred dogs are already sick and unhealthy as it is. My first doberman was with us some more than 13 years. But congrats on your all black doberman there are a few of us out here that want them to be recognized especially since all the false reports on them, and they are not from inbreeding. They are partial albino and not should be bread. And that is across all colours. I have a all black doby! I am concerned that our rather flawed, poorly evidence-based opinions may rob us of the pleasure of some lovely animals. ..is that good for your grammar, Hahahahaha lol that last question is hilarious . Not sure if it is the novelty of the color that makes people want them and then reality sets in Dobermans are not low maintenance dogs by any stretch. Inbreeding definitely can introduce unwanted traits, as well as perpetuate themBUT..Line-breeding (aka Inbreeding), when done by a conscientious professional, can strenthen a breed. Birth defects dont require you put the dog to sleep, but be responsible and educated. As long as you do,thats all that matters. I have a male and female black and tan dobermans the female i got frim indiana the male i got from tennessee i just bred them last year and one pup came out white so please explain to me how my white doberman is the product of inbreeding some of you need to realize thats not the only way their made. So me and my husband adopted a 10 month old Doberman from San Antonio Doberman Rescue and advocacy. If I ever have a white it will be a rescue. You need to remember all dogs came from the wolf and though breeding such as line breeding and inbreeding we have a wide variety of dogs some good some not so good but they all deserve our love and care no matter what. However it is discouraged to breed these Dobermans because of their health issues. ahh, its funny to see all the hatred for the white dobbies. They just happen to, every now and then, come in White or Cream. White tigers are very beautiful creatures as are white lions and both occur and survive naturalistically in nature. She has had 2 small lumps removed over the years. Think I talked to Tabetha. 23+ Doberman Haversham Dog Hi animal lovers, I see you are looking for 23+ Doberman Haversham Dog. Still, breeding is needed for that so the idiot you replied to is, in fact, an idiot. Anyway they tried so hard to keep them apart until they were ready to breed them later on. She is the best dog that I have ever owned. Ive been studying this breed for about 6 years now and I continue to learn so much. I am certainly responsible with dogs and have a lot of experience around them, I was raised with them. The dilute colors were frowned upon in their beginning as well. We are also in Alabama near Bham. I had a Blue Doberman. Oversize in both the US and in Europe. We also own a blue female and she has been much easier to take care of. Weve got nothing but good to say about him. Im currently in contact with a man in West Virginia who listed his 5 year old dobe on Craigslist for free.. check out the website dogfoodanalysis.com Evilboo if we do not spay/neuter dogs then we will have even more strays that get put in shelters and get put down or live their lives on the streets is that really what you want? White Doberman Punchers have NEVER been proven to be albino, and yes, white dobes can be show dogs in some countries, and, yes, there have been white champions, regardless of temperament. The pure ignorance (and arrogance) in a lot of these comments is overwhelming. your arguments are the same bullshit that the DPCA has been touting for years. This came out in the wrong place and is to Evilboo. Religious bashing is rude. I want my future Doberman to have the best foundation of development and training, something that I fear I will not be able to provide myself. I think the people on here telling others that breeding a dog for a look is bad should really stop and think about what theyre saying. my family and I are very invested in this puppy his name is Einstein and Id hate to back out on this because weve already grown quite attached to him. Since one white and one black allel means a black (and tan/rust) dog, and the white allel is rare, people can have white-carrier dogs without ever find out. 14,568 votes were collected over five years. He has the sweetest temperament and is an old soul, he has beautiful blue eyes, loves other dogs, kids, cats and people in general. I have known many White Dober-girls/boys, through Brigette. i am wanting to buy a doberman puppy as a pet because i have heard how intellegent and easily trainable they are. But nobody cares. 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